The freedom of religion guaranty protects individuals from the government's infringement on religion, and from the government establishing religion (or favoring one over another). There are some extensions within the context of work place and a few other categories. However an individual can shun away. The use of a funeral home would likely fall into the category of privately rented property, though, since someone is always paying for the services and room at the facility.
La Capra
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Shunning: A Violation of YOUR Right of Freedom from Religion?
by cameo-d ini really get hot under the collar when i read the stories of ex-jws being told to leave weddings, funerals, and family gatherings simply because the.
wt has overstepped their bounds and passed public judgement on these people declaring them "unfit to be around".. .
these judgements are based on adherance to wt interpretation of scriptures and organizational rules and laws they have devised from this "pick.
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Ex-JW Beauty Queen
by La Capra innot sure if this made it here yet:.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090315/articles/903150964.
we share something exactly in common, "when she left the religion as a 19 year-old ssu student..." i am very sad her dad shuns her, though..
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La Capra
Not sure if this made it here yet:
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090315/ARTICLES/903150964
We share something exactly in common, "when she left the religion as a 19 year-old SSU student..." I am very sad her dad shuns her, though.
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Remember the American Indian Tract?
by purplesofa inhere is where the new tract is posted.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/162314/1.ashx.
these photos were taken in toronto, canada at the 15th annual aboriginal festival in the sky dome on nov. 28 & 29, 2008. this was a booth that was set up, showcasing jehovah's witnesses and the literature available in the different native languages.
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La Capra
Think of all the hours and placements they could count...This alone could spike a few congregations' service reports for '08! Such a deal, have 20 or 30 "volunteers" who spent most of their time strolling the rest of the show (and are also able to buy food there, too, I'd guess, maybe even a beer) while counting hour after hour of "publishing."
Shoshana
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very simple hot meal recipes wanted :)
by asilentone ini want very simple hot meal recipes.
i am looking forward to see some of your recipes.
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La Capra
Spray an oven-safe baking dish and lid with non stick spray: Put in 2 frozen chicken breasts, one bag frozen black-eyed peas, 2 cans beef broth, one chopped onion, (about) 1/2 cup (or so) dry red wine, (about) 2 teaspoon ground thyme, (about) 2 teaspoon garlic salt and ground pepper. Bake at 375-400 for (about) an hour. After an hour (during which you should finish the dry red wine and take a nap), remove chicken, chop it up and return to dish, add (about) 1 cup white rice and bake for another 20-30 minutes. (Best baked on a foil-line cookie sheet to protect oven from splatters, even through the lid.) I guess if defrosted chicken breasts were used, chop the chicken and add rice after 30-35 minutes.
If the ingredients are all on hand (they are in my kitchen) this can get into the oven in about five minutes (chopping the onion being the only real "prep") without a lot of post-prep clean-up. It also gives you a good hour to do other stuff. We serve this stand alone or with bread.
This one warms the belly and the soul, and might possiby bring good
luckfortune.Shoshana
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A Divorce Win
by truthsetsonefree inas some of you may remember i have been embroiled in a divorce for the past year and a half.
i had helped my wife to see the reality of the jws.
but she ran back to it and that complicated things.
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La Capra
In my local jurisdiction in California, that's called a stipulation-order. They are binding whenever the magistrate says they are, regardless of whether they are signed (lots of California case law on that) or entered by the judge. Here, if one party later refuses to sign a stip-ord, the other party can still have the order entered, after a certain period of time. Is there something similar in New York? I hope so, because challenging the psych-eval is an expensive process for everyone. Thank-goodness for the "best interests of the child" standard.
Shoshana
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Birthdays are now a matter of conscience????
by sacrebleu ini just heard this.
i can't believe it.
does anyone know if this is true?.
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MY JW mom and my non-JW dad came to dinner in a restaurant for the express purpose of celebrating my birthday. There was cake and singing, and everything. Two weeks later, they accepted an invitation to my husband's surprise birthday party too. I almost feel like creating trouble for my mom, but I won't. Everything is conscience matter. When you do something that is "forbidden," If it bothers your conscience, you confess. If you get caught by someone and it bothers his conscience, then you're sitting in a committee, one way or the other.
Shoshana
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If I am disfellowshipped, will my family get disfellowshipped they...
by LayingLow ini have some family that would continue to associate with me even if i were disfellowshipped.
it is known by them that i am not truly an apostate (from yhwh and jesus).
i have come to a different conclusion than them after three years of intense activity at the hall.
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La Capra
I DA'ed over 20 years ago. Not once has my mom-a die hard dub- shunned me. Some of it may have to do with the fact that my dad is not a JW. We enjoy meals together (in restaurants and at our homes), take trips, she came to my Jewish wedding and didn't bolt during the prayers (it was all prayers), and we even go shopping in her local small town together (where I actively engage all dubs and ex-dubs we run into in conversations including my mom). I suspect she rationalizes it in two ways. First, that her husband requires that her to maintain her familial relationship with me, and two (this is the biggy that overrides any threats elders and others might make) The interactions were necessary to conduct important family business. I do not think the Watchtower has gone out and defined exactly what family business is, but any definition of it would have to be broad enough to include (even by a stretch) just about any type of familial activity you can think of....Shoshana
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La Capra
I think if you ran tests on students in an elementary school, you might find a direct correlation of the statistics of foot size and intelligence, or so it would appear. I bet Mensa has done some statistic collection on its members. That would not be too hard to track down.
Shoshana
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So...I got duped today!
by lovelylil ini am one of those people who always gives money to those who ask me on the street.
the reason is because there was a time when i was a kid that my siblings and i needed to beg on the street for food money because mom and dad were both addicts.. anyway, i was on my way into walmart and a lady stopped me and asked if i could give her a few dollars ($5 to be exact) so that she could pick up a prescription for some medicine.
she explained that she and her kids have been sick with bronchitis and although the kids were better she was not and had run out of money until her check came on the first of the month.. i can also sympethize with having to wait for government checks to buy what you need having grown up on state welfare programs and i reasoned that $5 is nothing for me and my husband because combined we bring in over six figures a year income.
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La Capra
There is a part of the Jewish Passover Seder when the angel Elisha sneaks in and takes a big gulp of wine from his designated cup (but no one sees him). The tradition says that he takes the form of a street beggar, and that you never know if the street beggar asking you for spare change or a few bucks is Elisha, so you give. Sometimes I give, but not always. But I give them enough to both buy their fix AND a hot meal. The last time I gave a beggar 20 bucks, he said "No shit man?" (I'm the girl type, so it was amusing). He then said, "I better hurry, they run out of chicken at KFC about now..." And he headed in the direction of the restaurant right away (Actually, he sort of jogged). When I drove past him a few minutes later, he was JUST walking into KFC and waved. So it's right to do it when you can, even if they do spend it on drugs most of the time, they don't always. Shoshana
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fader's wife expresses 1st doubts....
by sweet pea intalking to a friend (ex-elder) today whose wife was (is) a close friend of mine .
she's still a jdub but won't talk to me now i'm df'd (apparently it hit her very hard when we left) and so she busied herself with ministry and meetings in search of comfort and affirmation of her faith.
this didn't work for her and she came out with an unexpected question... .
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La Capra
That's how I ended up being able to leave. The idea that if nothing "out" there was "it," then the WTBTS probably wasn't either. Just because there isn't anything "else" out there doesn't mean that what you are in is something. This argument is probably most effective on those born and raised in the cult, who haven't seen or experienced what else is out there, rather than people who became members after becoming adults. How would they know what else is out there and how people involved are impacted by it? Shoshana